So often, too narrow a Q will result in the rider keeping one knee tracking well and cocking the other one out substantially.So the culprit was not seat height, setback, or anything cockpit related, but rather my actual cleat position. This is arguable advice at best and I will explain why below.Can’t wait to get out on the MTB and see how it feels on that thing – the extra oomph will be very welcome – although I can see myself fumbling for the first few rides on the rocks – as that is often like a track balancing act to manual over the ledges etc and it will be weird not being on my toes…One thing I forgot to mention Craig is that foot separation distance can affect wedging numbers. One caveat –Let me know and I’ll attempt to help.
Is it a logical conclusion?And lastly, No. It has rotated back somewhat because of the increased drop of the heel.”Re your observation about fixed cleats.
Yes, I like my job, though sometimes I would like a little less of it.Lastly, if Midfoot works well, why not move the cleat back even further?The outcome is the knee pain I’ve been suffering from all year is slowly subsiding.
Jerry was the one who “discovered” this on me – while we made changes to saddle height and fore-aft, the biggest two changes made were a bit more wedge and a fairly significant change in foot separation that completely changed the way my feet sat on the pedals (from really duck footed to fairly straight). i reckon 20 yrs ago I would have said all this was BS – arrgh the arrogance of youth…)4. Most have some form of adjuster screw that allows the user to decide how tightly clipped-in they want to be. But if I can achieve the same sustained effort AND have a better sprint, wouldn’t it be a simple answer to choose a cleat position further forward? There is evidence that in many cases it does not happen at all and that any useful plantarflexion is more imagined than real; the ankle remains almost immobile and the lower leg muscles work mainly to stabilise the ankle.Most people will see no need to shift their cleats backwards – or forwards – from their current position.
I have never felt as comfortable on a bike as I do at present.Here’s a simple thought experiment. I was wondering if you had any advice on the topic. I moved my cleats back 22mm and the trig tells me I only need to put my seat down about 3mm. That is good ability to get the rider to the end of a race over varied terrain and still effectively sprint at the end.
The further forward the cleat position relative to foot in shoe (up to a point), the easier this process is and the better the individual can sprint off the seat – all other things being equal.steve mentioned in a previous post that you sacrifice some of your “jump” in a quick acceleration, and i would say that’s true from the little i have experimented with it.Am I losing the plot, have I got abnormally large toes or do Lake shoes drill their cleat holes in odd places?Revisiting the end of this post, having jumped across from your Knee Pain post, and being a SPD-SL user I’d like to query this statement:I’ve purchased new shoes (sidi ergo 2) and new cleats (shimano red) to replace old and worn out versions of the same. 1 is that most of the advice you will see in print recommends that the cleat be positioned so that the ball of the foot is over the pedal axle.
I have experienced this and it has gotten much better by moving the right cleat rearward. Are you running a steep seat angled TT / Tri frame?What ever you choose to do after you have been through that exercise will be right for you and what you do on a bike.Friel got the idea from Gotz Heine as did I and Gotz has kept him up to date on research since. Please let me know as i have noticed trends of going wider, as with Mark Cavendish and his 20mm Dura Ace pedal spindles.
The difference is 8mm and it’s a somewhat of a relief that I’m not imagining it. In other words someone who has a varied riding ‘profile’ and wants to be effective at most things that can be done on a bike.
Especially considering the difficulty finding the centre of the axle and the size of the joint itself. Rider explosively extends the leg early in the pedal stroke with a lot of heel drop and then more or less coasts through the bottom of the pedal stroke. Over the last 3 years, the percentage of my clients that have needed wider than standard foot separation (wider pedal axles or the addition of pedal extenders) has remained constant at 16 – 17% and the percentage that need narrower than standard foot separation (shorter than standard pedal axles) is 5%.I have a question regarding ranges of cleat adjustment.